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MAYBE I SHOULD BE AN ARTIST
Posted On: 06/29/2008 16:21:22
Since the forum has been a little dead lately, I'm going to pose a question on it that has perplexed me for some time, but I'm going to give a little background here on this journal first.

About a month and a half ago, a town about 20 miles from where I live had an "Art On The Square" show.  Well, first of all, this town does not have a town square as I know them to be.  It has a fountain in the middle of an intersection and I guess this is what they are referring to as a square.  Anyway, back to the story.

I am now quoting from the local newspaper, Belleville News-Democrat: "Art on the Square was named the top art show in the nation last year because of its eye-popping sales figures, and this year, the show did better than ever." (I'd like to know who named it the top art show in the nation)

"The event's 105 artists averaged (this is hard for me to imagine) $11,875 in sales in 2008, $1,033 better than the average take last year of $10,842 per artist.  A total of $1,246,955 worth of paintings, sculptures and photographs were sold this year, compared to about $1.1 million in 2007."

I really have only one word for this and that is "WOW".  Oh, by the way, the comments, in parenthesis above were mine, not the newspapers.

Can you imagine working one weekend doing something you love and making almost $12,000.  I realize that a lot of work would have been done to prepare for this one weekend.

My wife and I use to participate in Craft Fairs and was lucky to make our expenses.  If we made $300 for the weekend, we thought we were really doing good.  People who go to craft shows aren't prepared to spend a lot of money.  In fact they try to talk you down in price and think they are getting cheated if they have to pay more than what the materials cost you.  Maybe I am exaggerating a little, but not much.

We have attended, as spectators, several Art Shows and I was amazed at what some people were paying for the "stuff" they were buying and the prices the artists were charging.  Some of these people are the same people who wouldn't pay you anything at a craft show, but would pay an arm and a leg at a art show, for something they wanted.

Now, the question I'm posing is, are you a craftsman or an artist?  I have always considered myself as a craftsman.  Most everything I do, I do to the best of my ability.  In fact, I probably go to the extreme of wanting it to be perfect in every way.  I always work off of plans or a tangible idea.  I believe an artist is someone who has a vision and can imagine and design whatever it is they are creating.  I would like to know how some of you define craftsman and artists.

After reading the article, I think I shall have to rethink my title of craftsman and change it to artist.


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11/11/2008 17:00:27

I am late seeing this so forgive me.. Loving words I had to look this one up to see what I think.  neither one fits me as to wood carving. I am still an apprentice journeyman I suppose. Looking at some of the awesome artists I am surrounding with I feel humbled that they even speak to me. If you were to ask me about some of the other things I am involved in I would say I am a craftsman about alot of them and an artist at others.  But per the dictionary both words mean just about the same thing. 

 




07/08/2008 09:56:25

Personally, I would say I am an artist who also happens to be a capable craftsman.  To me craftsmanship is taking something and making it fit perfectly where it should go while art is taking something that shouldn't fit and making it work regardless.


The following are excerpted from my free ebook on woodcarving "the state of woodcarving in America today" Chap.9 Art vs. Craft... You can read the whole chapter here 


http://www.carvinginnyc.com/sowc%20chapter%209.htm


There are many things which are debatable in woodcarving circles but there seems to be one universal truth, and that is that the public, on the whole, does not view woodcarving as an art.  Although it is usually said in jest, the only difference between art and craft is the money that you can charge for it.  Yes, there are areas of the country where wood sculptures may command high prices.  There are many wildlife carvings which sell for $10,000 or more. They are exceptions to the rule, rather than the norm.  Woodcarving, in and of itself is a craft.  There is no debating this.  Woodcarving is all about technique, which can be taught and learned by most people.  So are painting, clay sculpting and turning.  They are crafts and in some cases, sciences.  A painter or sculptor does not become an artist through technique, whether he/she perfects his techniques or not.  A painter or other craftsman only becomes an artist when he unleashes his emotion and infuses it into his craft.  You cannot use a pattern, carve it and then have it considered a work of art.  Yes, it may be beautiful and you may have mastered the techniques involved, you may even ask for and sell the carving for big bucks but it is still not art.  Art is original and emanates from the heart, soul and mind of the artist, and then translates itself down his arms and through his hands into his chosen medium.  This is something that you must accept because it is what separates art from craft.  Craft is technique and repetition of that technique.  Can we all agree that a paint by number is not art, no matter how well done it is?  Do Bob Ross’s painting techniques produce works of art?  Is tole painting an “art”?  Art must be distinct from craft, although the two frequently intermingle until where the craft ends and the art begins is completely obscured.  Works of art must be unique, not particularly as to subject matter, but in sense of style and interpretation.  Our handwriting is unique and when interpreted by those who study such things, it tells a story about who we are.  It is the same with our artwork.  There are little subtleties among the tools and techniques that we carvers use.  When finished, our carvings should have their own signature look about them.   It is fine for a hobby carver to use patterns and to look at other carvers’ works and try to duplicate them but an artist must truly create, not copy.  Without an artists’ intention, the work may be a fine piece of craftsmanship, but in my opinion it will never be art.


How can woodcarving be perceived as “art’ by the general public when carvers themselves do not present it as art? The price of ‘art’ cannot be whittled down in order to turn a profit. Devaluing one small carving affects the price of every other carving in the marketplace.  Electricians, plumbers and doctors do not discount their services to the general public, woodcarvers do. No surgeon ever said to a patient, “I usually get $6,000 to remove a gallbladder, but I can let you have it for $4,500 and if you come back at the end of the day and I haven’t made enough money yet, I will let you have the surgery for $3,000”.  If your doctor ever says something like that to you, run and don’t look back.  Imagine a plumber says to you, I will do the job for half price but I will save on my materials and use inferior pipe.  Would you want him to work on your house?  Woodcarvers do it all the time.  They try to guess how much a person will be willing to pay before they set a price rather than feeling comfortable with the value they believe their work to have.  Mass produced carvings are imported from Thailand, Bali, Indonesia and other cheap labor countries.  The items are hand carved but yet bear price tags of 14.99.  These carvings are flooding the market and some carvers attribute the decline in appreciation of carving in America directly to the influx of imported carvings. What they fail to understand is that for a carver to be an artist, he is not really selling carvings, but is selling himself, his image and reputation and all the other carvings that he has ever produced in order to be who he is today. You would not know Andy Warhol’s name today if he asked $14.99 for his copy of a Campbell’s tomato soup label.  You cannot compete with the mass-produced carvings and must offer something other than your carvings, namely yourself.


What’s the difference between art and craft?


 


About $1000


Art is not for the average person, craft is.


Craft comes with instructions and art doesn’t.


Crafts requires skill and art doesn’t.


Craft is external, art internal.


Craft has judges, art has critics.


Craft sells, art starves.


Craft is learned, art born.


 


 



06/30/2008 13:57:09

Dennis,  


Very interesting.  I have participated in several of the "juried arts festivals" in my state.  In fact I know of several folks who have sold in excess of $20,000 in one day.  Not all that hard to do if you have a large stock of expensive things.  It might be very telling to know what the entry fee for that art festival was.  As to the difference between artist and craftsman.  All I can really say is that if I had to produce near perfect carvings to be a craftsmen....I am an artist for sure.  I don't know what this means to "artists" who dribble paint onto a canvas, then get rave reviews; and sell the "art" for thousands.


Tom H




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